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    stage 2 upgrade to stage 3 how?

    hey guys so i wana upgrade to the big m. my current set up is stage 2 with toys and full boltons. what do i need to upgrade to the stage 3?? i know both the stage 2 and 3 injectors are both 682s but i think they have different flow ratings do i need different injectors? could use agp 750s? can i use my existing turbo toys? and just plug in a stage 3 pcm? would i have to buy a stage 3 fuel rail or could i get away with a aftermarket boomba rail? i want to try to do no tuning just run mopar stage 3. posibly get a e3 stage 3? i need every detail i would have to do and would like to know every part i would need to buy. cuz i have stage 2 already would that make the jump to stage 3 alot easier cuz i have the turbo toys already installed and already have the map and tip sensors? all info appreciated

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    anyone?

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    Just find out what is included int he S3r kit and purchase what you dont have. You dont want to tune, yet your talking about an Enforcer turbo and 750's?

    You need injectors
    Fuel rail
    Walbro 255 pump
    Your toys will work as they are the same
    Turbo and manifold
    S3r PCM
    Map and Tip if its not Mopar S3r

    Do one or the other, dont mix it up for reliability and ease of use issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMario View Post
    Just find out what is included int he S3r kit and purchase what you dont have. You dont want to tune, yet your talking about an Enforcer turbo and 750's?

    You need injectors
    Fuel rail
    Walbro 255 pump
    Your toys will work as they are the same
    Turbo and manifold
    S3r PCM
    Map and Tip if its not Mopar S3r

    Do one or the other, dont mix it up for reliability and ease of use issues.

    thanks for the info. but yes i dont want to tune i just want to run stage 3 of pcm controlled boost. as far as the e1 turbo yes i wad considering i but hence i dont want to tune id be running it of of pcm controlled boost thus not making much power with it. thats why i decided to go the stage 3 route. i was asking about the 750s because mopar stage 3 parts are difficult to come by so i was going to ask if i could run agp 650s or agp 750s and a boomba rail on stage 3 pcm controlled boost with out tunning. im assumimg no probably.. also i cant use my stage 2 682s right because there scaled differently then the stage 3 injectors right? im just trying to see what stock stage 3 parts i can get aftermarket ones for basicly. but thanks for the help

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    the stage 2/3 injectors are the same but as far as finding a stage 3 turbo and manifold you can look on srtforums for it used because mopar doesnt make the stage 3 kit anymore which makes getting parts for it very hard you can check out agpturbo.com or modernperformance for the 3bar map and tip sensor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Srt View Post
    the stage 2/3 injectors are the same but as far as finding a stage 3 turbo and manifold you can look on srtforums for it used because mopar doesnt make the stage 3 kit anymore which makes getting parts for it very hard you can check out agpturbo.com or modernperformance for the 3bar map and tip sensor
    hmmm ok good i thought the stage 2 and stage 3 injectors were different. oh and i already have the sensors cuz of my stage 2. but yeah im lookin everywhere for a stage 3 turbofold if u know anyone sellin one im the guy to talk to

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    best bet would check out srtforums and see but im not a fan of buyin used turbos there hard to find and if you do find them people want anywhere from 1500 bux to 2000 but i will look around and see if i know anyone looking to give up one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Srt View Post
    best bet would check out srtforums and see but im not a fan of buyin used turbos there hard to find and if you do find them people want anywhere from 1500 bux to 2000 but i will look around and see if i know anyone looking to give up one
    yeah thanks man that would be a great help i know some one has to be sellin one. and i never go on srt forums my post count is to low there to even see the for sale threads unfortunatly

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    lol yeah i hear you if i find anything ill let you know

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    here is the link for a stage 3 pcm http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...ulator-555865/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Srt View Post
    that really sucks............... it wont let me view it cuz my account is to new on srtforums. how much is it goin for i prob woulda bought it as long it a stage 3 pcm with turbo toys... fml!!!!!

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    i think it is stage 3 with toys i believe its 600 he name is JPG send him a pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Srt View Post
    i think it is stage 3 with toys i believe its 600 he name is JPG send him a pm
    ok yeah i def will dam i didnt know stage 3 pcms went for so much. but not a biggie i still want it

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    http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...-stuff-554907/

    i dont know if he sold it yet but its 1100 his name is SunshineUnderground pm him im pretty sure he still has the turbo

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    or txt him number is 713-377-8144

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Srt View Post
    or txt him number is 713-377-8144
    sweet thanks man i owe you one i shot him a text hopefully this deal falls thru

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    alright cool let me know how everything works out for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Srt View Post
    alright cool let me know how everything works out for you
    i made him a very good offer but hes very content on putting it on ebay. hes going to let me knoww by the end of the day

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    alright cool well good luck to you 1100 bux for it is a steal for that turbo and manifold

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    hey anyone know if i can use an boomba rail instead of a stage 3 rail with stage 3 on pcm controlled boost?

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    im using a boomba rail with stage 2/3 injectors and on pcm controlled boost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Srt View Post
    im using a boomba rail with stage 2/3 injectors and on pcm controlled boost
    nice r u running a stage 3 terb? n u didnt have to tune anything it didnt affect anything. im just trying to eliminate stage 3 crap i have to buy that i can sub for aftermarket items.

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    im running the forward motion e1 turbo and waiting for my m the manifold on and from them to because it close enough to a stage 3 it has a 39lb wheel inside of it because im not a fan of buyin a used turbo so i went with the next best thing after i get the manifold on im bring it down to them and they will tune it a bit and ill post of the dyno numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Srt View Post
    im running the forward motion e1 turbo and waiting for my m the manifold on and from them to because it close enough to a stage 3 it has a 39lb wheel inside of it because im not a fan of buyin a used turbo so i went with the next best thing after i get the manifold on im bring it down to them and they will tune it a bit and ill post of the dyno numbers
    nice i like the e1s i was considering it but i think i want to go little bigger cuz as soon as i get something i get bord or want more. but im l;azy n dont wana tune so im just impossible lol i want big power n no tuning sounds like a wallgreens comercial with the perfect world lol

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    i wouldnt even mind getting a tune its just ever since n2mb left to move to florida. theres no one i would rele trust tunning my car. i havent heard of anyone around our area whos rele good. just realtune in ohio and dcr in florida. but there soooo far. i heard jannety was ok there kinda close but thats it. any reccomendations would be good. possibly id reconsider running off of pcm n just get a tune

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