I'd like to see people's opinions and experiences with the various coilover setups. Examples...
Mopar Stage 3
Tien
Megan Racing
etc.
Pros, cons, comparison to stock or previous setups, adjustability, ride height, etc. Don't forget to include your wheel/tire setup as well as any other suspension related changes you may have made like sway bars, bushings, etc. as they also are a factor in the results.
Thanks!
Mod: possibly change the title of this thread after it gets going.
IPP 36 way adjustables. TEH SUX0R!!! Ride quality is garbage and they bounce more than a superball in a rubber room. Stock tires and rims and they still ride like ass. Only good thing about them is you can give your car that F&F look by slamming it to the ground. :woot:
I'll do two comparison's since I own(ed) two.
Image Performance Products (IPP) Non-Dampening Height Adjustable C/O's
Used with both stock wheels/tires & 17x7 Exel Speeds wrapped w/ Nankang 215/45/17 tires.
Pros:
Affordable
Raise & Lower car as high & as low as wanted
Cons:
Spring rates designed for Honda Civic
Very uncomfortable for rough roads
No Dampening adjustment (although available in higher model)
Lock rings will freeze up sometimes
No pillow mount must use stock
Tein SuperStreet aka Tein SS
Used with both 17x7 kyora wheels Bridgestone Blizzack 205/50/17 tires & 18x7.5 MB Motoring weapon wheels Falken Azenis RT-615 235/40/18 tires
Pros:
Most comfortable ride IMO
32 way dampening adjustment
Full height adjustment
Excellent warranty
Tein SS-P available with camber adjustable pillowmounts
Cons:
Expensive - avg cost $1350
SS model does not include Camber adj. pillowmounts
anyone have experience with kw coilovers?
http://www.kw-suspension.com/en/30_P...DGE&gruppe=all
also how comfortable can the tein ss get Hozay? anywhere near a lexus heh
Last edited by sriquixotic; 01-28-07 at 08:38 PM.
The KW Coilovers are the Mopar coilovers. KW makes the supsension components for Mopar. Their name branded version probably has slight adjustments to the ones offered as Mopar. I have the Mopar Stage 3's and they are just as comfortable as the Tein SS IMO. I own the S3's and I've been in two cars w/ the Teins. I love my Mopar Satge 3's and if given the chance to do it again I wouldn't get any others. Stage 3 CO's are ride height adjustable (can be slammed upon removal of stop rings) and has damper adjustments as well.
I know I've been leaning towards the Megan Racing because of their massive adjustability in dampening (36 points iirc) and the camber adjustable pillowball mounts, but if the Tien SS-P's do the same it'll come down to things like warranty and reliability.
i have IPP 36's on my car and have been in a ride wit Tein SS's a few times. It's hard to say which is better because they are both so adjustable. When i first set mine up it was bouncy as hell. Same as how the Tein SS car rides now. I've now adjusted mine to be stiffer but wit big bumps it's killer. Next weekend I'll try to find a better compromise.
It all matters how u adjust spring height, strut length, and dampening. It's trial and error.
I would never compare the IPP's to the Tein's. It's not even fair, trust me. IPP spring rates are for a honda civic. Not a Dodge Neon SRT-4. My car is far from bouncy, it depends on how you set them. If you have them as soft as Brad had them then yes your bouncing like your hittin' switches.
Rollin in my Six-Fo' and everybody sayin...Originally Posted by hozay09
I would never compare the IPP's to the Tein's. It's not even fair, trust me. IPP spring rates are for a honda civic. Not a Dodge Neon SRT-4. My car is far from bouncy, it depends on how you set them. If you have them as soft as Brad had them then yes your bouncing like your hittin' switches.
Can't you order different spring direct from the company?
I have Megan racing c/o. They ride fine, have a lot of adjustment which could also be a con because it will be a tough harder to dial them in at the track. But best for the money IMO.
Camber adjustable right? front and rear? what's the warranty.
please expand, i would like to know what characteristics are a con.
thanks.
Howard and I are looking for same or similar things.
Did anyone here get the BC Racing ones from PTP recently?
The megan racing c/o do have the pillow ball adj in the front. They are 32 adj. Since I'm a track kind of guy only, with i might add no money lol, it's going to take some time for me to get the suspension dialed in to run the best times. There's a lot of gizmos and gadgets on the c/o. If that makes any sense.......
no. this explanation really doesn't add any more sense.
but then i have to ask, don't you make all your adjustments prior to going to the track?
if you're talking about a 1/4 drag strip and you swap springs between street and strip i can see that taking time-but again, you do that prior to the event...
do the megans have the same adjustabilty for both rebound AND compression? or just rebound?
if instead you're talking about corner weighing your car i can understand. different tracks are going to require different settings. dialing in can cost money-which you indicate you don't have.
i'm looking for answers to help my research. thanks.
How can someone make adjustments before you are at the track? For one, you have to adjust individually for a particular track you go to and how it is running that particular day. Not everyone might be as worried about perfecting each pass as I am, all I'm saying is I want the best out of what I have without wasting time and money by making bullshit passes with a suspension that isnt properly adjusted. Therefore, yes it will be time consuming and a bit of pain since these c/o have unlimited adjustment. If that doesnt make sense, then you shouldnt race.
I love it when people make that statement. Immediately earns them anaward.
what type of adjustments do you need to make?
i am not familiar with adjustments at a drag strip since i don't race.
thanks.
So i'm an asshat for posting my opinion of a particular coilover and what is needed out of them to reach the upmost of their potential? This board is awesome
Asshat or not, some folks are asking some valid questions about your setup:
-you say there's lot's of adjustability which is a con, post #11 asks what kind pertaining to camber-NO ANSWER
-then in #16 you state the OBVIOUS: pillow ball, 32 way, gizmos, gadgets-and include the fact that you have no money
-i ask about why adjustments are a con, what type of adjustability for compression and rebound the Megans have (because i'm interested in feedback) and you proceed to tell us your how "worried about perfecting each pass"-more so than anyone and continue with some personal inefficiencies about your suspension setup. you then conclude by stating if what you type doesn't make sense, one shouldn't race.
-i ask another question #20 about what you do to adjust your suspension since I don't know what is entailed for drag racing. NO ANSWER.
You did reply to the asshat post with a greater interest than answering any of the posted questions.
Your statement was unclear. It was that last line, as I indicated, that earns you an
While you may feel you have something to contribute, failing to do so in a manner others understand is ineffective. The clearer, more concise and precise you can make your communication, the more likely it will be effective.
Last edited by Sota; 02-03-07 at 04:47 PM.
Honestly, I can never understand why people are so quick to blame the board because 1 or 2 members disagree. :doh:
No answers yet? This thread is killing my research.
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