1st vs. 2nd gear burnouts

[94redreaper]

I was only used to doing burnouts in RWD V8 cars w/a manual trans. We always used 2nd gear. 1st would rev way too quickly and I could barely control it. The tires would only get hot enough doing longer 2nd gear burnouts.

With the SRT-4, I have read so many threads about not doing the 2nd gear burnouts due to breaking axles, clutches etc. So, I did them in first.

After experimenting w/the 1st and 2nd gear burnout, I found these results.

First gear burnouts were just like the V8 RWD cars. Way too fast, bad wheel hop, no tire heat.

Using second gear, the burnouts were smooth, no wheel hop at all, and the tires got nice and sticky. My 60 ft. times dropped by 2 tenths and my et dropped by 3 tenths. No broken clutches, axles or any thing. If anything, I think when you do a 2nd gear burnout corectly, it is easier on the drivertrain.

[psi chick]

everyone that's upgraded the turbo does 2nd gear burn ourts, or at least they should be. i thought this was common knowledge at this point.

[Honto]

So you wont break axels/clutch/tranny doing them? What did you get you 60ft down to? Is this street tires/drag radials/slicks?

[boostedneon04]

so let me get this right..i should do a 2nd gear burnout at the track on slicks..rev to 5k dump it and just hold it and then ride it out?

[psi chick]

ok i thought more people knew this than it appears.

put the car in 2nd, pull the ebrake, rev to like 5k and dump it. when you see smoke and the tires start to pull you, drop the ebrake and ride it out. it's that simple.

2nd gear burns outs are really more for slicks. on street tires you shouldn't really be doing any kind of burn out, it makes the tires slip rather than grip. just spin them to get the junk off. on dr's you can do a full burn out, but they don't need to get as hot as a slick i've found.

my 60's are generally in the 1.8 area, with a 1.7 thrown in occassionally. working on getting that down to a 1.6 and then i'll be in business.

[94redreaper]

I use DR's. I got 1.9 60ft w/the dr's compared to 2..05-2.1.

I rev to 5k and dump the clutch w/the e-brake on. I hold the rpm's between 4500 to 5k and when the car strats pulling, let off the ebrake and ride it out. No bucking, jumping nothing. Just a mini John Force burnout.

Most of the clutches going are due to riding them. Axles snap from wheel hop and sudden stops after burnout. Just ride it out after the tires heat up and let the rpm's drop themselves.

If you don't hold the rpms above 4500 or so, the car will pull the car and you'll have to release the ebrake or you'll be dragging you rear wheels.

I have a stock turbo. I feel the SRT-4 has enough torque to due the 2nd gear burnout. My car has 36000 miles on the stock clutch. The clutch soes not feel one bit different that the day I got it.

Burnout is the same for slicks.

[Bungles]

I got an aftermarket clutch and now do 2nd gear burnouts. I love the tire smoke :headbang:

Tires still break pretty easily even with the stock turbo.

[scarface2jz]

IM ABOUT TO DO MY 2ND SET OF AXELS... maybe im burning out wrong, or something... but my set of both front snapped 3rd day with the car.... like FULLY snapped, front end shaking, the whole 9 yards, but now on left turns my left axel clicks.... it might be my ABS or my LSD, but im guessing its my axel, so as for burning out, im kinda afraid of doing it, PERIOD

[hozay09]

^^ please don't respond stupid to this reply folks...

[htheduck]

I will refrain.

[scarface2jz]

what i ment was, are my brakes rubbing... maybe u took it wrong, i woulda even made fun of myself... haha, GOD WTF WAS I THINKING....

[N2MB]

ok i thought more people knew this than it appears.
put the car in 2nd, pull the ebrake, rev to like 5k and dump it. when you see smoke and the tires start to pull you, drop the ebrake and ride it out. it's that simple.
2nd gear burns outs are really more for slicks. on street tires you shouldn't really be doing any kind of burn out, it makes the tires slip rather than grip. just spin them to get the junk off. on dr's you can do a full burn out, but they don't need to get as hot as a slick i've found.
my 60's are generally in the 1.8 area, with a 1.7 thrown in occassionally. working on getting that down to a 1.6 and then i'll be in business.
thats a very good point..on street tires when you burn out all you are doing is cleaning off the tires,almost no burnout on streets is well enough

[Honto]

I tried doing the whole cleaning the tires thing and all i could get where 2.3 60 foots but with a burnout i was getting 2.25's

[blinginator]

saturday, i am borrowing drag radials from alex47, so u guys are all sayin burnout in 2nd? and ride it out, and when launchin, what rpm? 4k? it will be my first time launchin/burnin on drags , ive only done it on street tires



*edit* nevermind, found the thread

[Frodo]

from what i hear, 2nd gear burnouts on stock clutch arnet a good idea... anyone have info on this?

[Bungles]

Let's all learn how to do a burnout by typing instructions over the Internet :rofl:

Get your asses in your cars and drive the friggin things already :thumb:

[htheduck]

this thread is clearly and steadily approaching the :gay: factor.
Like Jeff says, just do it already.

[CaRaZyGuY]

<~~Stock Turbo, Stock Clutch, Stock Axles, 2nd gear burnouts and 1.7's all day long on 24.5x8 M/T slickers.

[Awd_This]

<~~Stock Turbo, Stock Clutch, Stock Axles, 2nd gear burnouts and 1.7's all day long on 24.5x8 M/T slickers.

I'm hoping to hit those 1.7's this weekend. :cool:

[Bungles]

1.711 baby :woot:

[Frodo]

Let's all learn how to do a burnout by typing instructions over the Internet :rofl:
Get your asses in your cars and drive the friggin things already :thumb:ok well i would like to avoid gernading my trans by tryin a 2nd gear burnout with the stock clutch

[Bungles]

Your trans will grenade soon enough anyway :lol:

Start saving that $$$

[CaRaZyGuY]

LOL i got the 1.7's down but i need to cut the top end a little. All in due time.

I do have a question tho, does tire pressure affect your top end at all? Like with added friction or anything?

[scarface2jz]

i need to stop breaking axles... :cry:

[94redreaper]

LOL i got the 1.7's down but i need to cut the top end a little. All in due time.
I do have a question tho, does tire pressure affect your top end at all? Like with added friction or anything?

Yes it will. I pump my backs up to 45-50 pounds for less rolling resistance. The key for the front is to get them just low enough to get the 60ft times you want w/o sacrificing too much up top.

[DrEdSrT4]

2nd gear burnouts ARE NOT good for your stock clutch.. crazyguy gets away with it because he doesnt have a lot of powering going through that clutch like everyone else on here ;)

[scarface2jz]

im not sure if somebody just got pwned... lol

[TTsupra911]

ok well i would like to avoid gernading my trans by tryin a 2nd gear burnout with the stock clutch

from what I hear that usually only happens if you start doing a burn out in 1st and then get the bright idea of trying to shift to 2nd while still sitting there...

[htheduck]

this thread is about destroying parts of your automobile. :confused:

[scarface2jz]

from what I hear that usually only happens if you start doing a burn out in 1st and then get the bright idea of trying to shift to 2nd while still sitting there...
thats deff good to know, lol, but durring wheel spin at a roll, could shifting hurt it ? or does it just bring ur RPMs down like a MOFO ? thanx (BTW what kinda supra u got ???)

[BunB]

this thread is about destroying parts of your automobile. :confused:


Basically, I don't do burnouts cause I love to have money in my pocket.

[scarface2jz]

Basically, I don't do burnouts cause I love to have money in my pocket.
:werd:

[htheduck]

Basically, I don't do burnouts cause I love to have money in my pocket.
I don't even know how to do a burnout. :confused:

[NYYDYNASTY]

I don't even know how to do a burnout. :confused:then why are you posting in here.

:D

[htheduck]

then why are you posting in here. :D
Intelligence gathering?
I have found little so far.

[psi chick]

stick to turning, let the rest of us worry about burnouts and going fast.

[htheduck]

stick to turning, let the rest of us worry about burnouts and going fast.
My research is my own business. So far, I've learned a lot from this thread. :)

[NYYDYNASTY]

i dont understand how you can't do a burnout, but you know how to do a 180

lol

[htheduck]

i dont understand how you can't do a burnout, but you know how to do a 180
lol
Perhaps since it has to do with turning? I don't know. :(