View Full Version : WOT shifting into third doesn't happen.
Hassviper
09-18-05, 12:17 AM
I thought at first I just missed but everytime I try to wot shift into third it basically just grinds...Is it cuz i'm still stock or is my clutch/tranny messed up? I heard people say all the time i missed third constantly until I got a short throw....I'm hoping i'm going through the same thing.
you're stock and wot shifting? i used to miss third all the time too...get a sts, you won't be sorry.
if its grinding with the clutch to the floor somethings f'd up. if your missing it or cant find it, re-center your clutch.
DrEdSrT4
09-18-05, 02:11 PM
i used to miss 3rd everyday of my life lol.. now i can WOT shift every gear with the stock shifter in my sleep.. just takes practice
NYYDYNASTY
09-18-05, 02:30 PM
i have problems with my 3rd gear, sometimes. clutch all the way down, shift into 3rd ... sometimes it will pop back out. Almost as if I didnt push it all the way in.
I think thats all it was though
But it ONLY happens in 3rd.
GotWhat?
10-08-05, 12:10 PM
Get a STS.
dannya88
10-08-05, 12:14 PM
what does missing 3rd gear mean?
GotWhat?
10-08-05, 12:17 PM
what does missing 3rd gear mean?You go to put the shifter into the 3rd gear location and it doesn't go in. Happend all the time with the stock shifter.
NYYDYNASTY
10-08-05, 12:30 PM
i've heard of some people breaking their forks or their gear selector.
hopefully thats not your case.
Nolimits
10-08-05, 01:32 PM
Same thing thats happening to Dynasty is happening to me, Either I would push it into third and it would pop out, or it wouldnt go into third at all, even with the clutch pushed down as far as it could go. Ive gotten responses that say its from a third gear synchro that shot or could be a bent/broken shifter fork...
fourbanger
10-10-05, 02:43 PM
I only have problems with third during downshifts at moderate rpms 2000-4000. It wont go into gear sometimes but if i give it some extra force before i release the clutch it stays. Im also hoping a sts will solve my problem.
Grifter
10-10-05, 09:57 PM
Hass STOP WOT shifting!!
My friend had the same problem, the next week on the way to work the car wouldn't shift at all......he grenaded his trans.
DrEdSrT4
10-11-05, 03:45 AM
Hass STOP WOT shifting!!
My friend had the same problem, the next week on the way to work the car wouldn't shift at all......he grenaded his trans.
YIKES.. PwN3d..in a bad way :( *knocks on wood*
SupeRfasT-4
10-11-05, 04:53 AM
yeh its not worth WOT shifting unless your racing at the track or something worth messing your car up
last time at the track i only missed 3rd twice out of 12 runs wot shifting.. all depends on how you 'put it in' :hehe:
I used to shift WOT and it was cool for a while but then it started grinding so I said fuck that and stopped WOT shifts. I'd maybe only do it again if I was at the track. Besides I dont even feel it helps you....I regularly race someone who always shifts WOT while I don't and we stay dead even during the shifts. A lot of times I even gain on him while shifting. I don't think its worth it at all. The only good thing is that it sounds cool.(especially if you have stage 2 :cool: )
Grifter
10-11-05, 04:11 PM
YIKES.. PwN3d..in a bad way :( *knocks on wood*
Yup, true story. The mechanic that took out his trans said that when he removed the drain plug there were chunks of metal that came out. FYI, the tech owns an SRT.
Anyway, I have never and will never WOT shift in my car. That's obviously my opinion, but after rebuilding transmissions in class I would hate to be those syncros.:eek: I would do it only if it was my weekend race car and I could afford to beat on it like that.
It does sound cool though.:D
DrEdSrT4
10-11-05, 04:19 PM
Yup, true story. The mechanic that took out his trans said that when he removed the drain plug there were chunks of metal that came out. FYI, the tech owns an SRT.
Anyway, I have never and will never WOT shift in my car. That's obviously my opinion, but after rebuilding transmissions in class I would hate to be those syncros.:eek: I would do it only if it was my weekend race car and I could afford to beat on it like that.
It does sound cool though.:D
I rarely do it.. i dont even do it at the track.. ive only done it a handful of times just to get it right while im racing.. the one to 2nd and 4th is cake but to 3rd took sometime to get.. but the feeling is awsome..
BlackDragon
10-11-05, 04:19 PM
wot shifting only does damage when you do it wrong...
Grifter
10-11-05, 05:40 PM
wot shifting only does damage when you do it wrong...
And I will most likely do it wrong...:D
DrEdSrT4
10-11-05, 08:28 PM
And I will most likely do it wrong...:D
Ditto!
Ok Ant, enlighten us on how to do it correctly?
i wont power shift any of my cars, personally i dont think a 10th or 2 is worth a mis-shift to :wave: tranny
DrEdSrT4
10-12-05, 03:47 PM
i wont power shift any of my cars, personally i dont think a 10th or 2 is worth a mis-shift to :wave: tranny
Ive slammed my car into 2nd from 3rd instead of 4th twice at the strip.. i started to cry with my tranny, it was only for a milisecond cuz i caught it but lol my tranny is still ok *knocks on wood*
fourbanger
10-22-05, 07:51 AM
I no longer have a third gear. Im almost positive its the synchros b/c when i idle through first and second and go to shift to third i can get it to engage.
Sux but ill survive w/o it for a lil while.
Im at 15k miles would a trans fluid change do me anygood at this point?
I no longer have a third gear. Im almost positive its the synchros b/c when i idle through first and second and go to shift to third i can get it to engage.
Sux but ill survive w/o it for a lil while.
Im at 15k miles would a trans fluid change do me anygood at this point?
nope....if you want to pull the tranny and send it to me i will be more than happy to rebuild it:thumbs-up
fourbanger
10-22-05, 10:13 AM
Feel like rebuilding a tranny tonight ???
Punks at the body shop beat her to death.
Check your pms jay.
hey guys with short throw shifters,before you drive yourself crazy with wot missed 3rd gears if you have your stock shifter put it back in and recheck it.sts's put alot of strain on the tranny especially on wot shifts
in fact i would bet my left nut that 90% of the tranny problems are caused by short throws
The-Violator
11-02-05, 01:12 AM
in fact i would bet my left nut that 90% of the tranny problems are caused by short throws
Do you think a gated short throw or one with gear stops would fix the problem?
hozay09
11-02-05, 01:15 AM
in fact i would bet my left nut that 90% of the tranny problems are caused by short throws
shaddap! u just suck at driving my car...admit it..
Do you think a gated short throw or one with gear stops would fix the problem?
doubt it, the stock shifter believe it or not is pretty well designed.ive never had a problem with it and i wot shift at the track with mine
DrEdSrT4
11-02-05, 08:30 AM
doubt it, the stock shifter believe it or not is pretty well designed.ive never had a problem with it and i wot shift at the track with mine
now that you mention it..I NEVER have a problem with mine either.. *knock on wood* I can WOT shift through ever gear with out 1 bit of grinding or anything..i dont do it often but @ the track or during a race i do
GO STOCK SHIFTERS!
The-Violator
11-02-05, 01:00 PM
That's it, I'm throwing my stocker back in there this weekend just to see if it does anything besides piss me off becuase it feels like a tracktor trailor.
That's it, I'm throwing my stocker back in there this weekend just to see if it does anything besides piss me off becuase it feels like a tracktor trailor.
hey did you try that?
The-Violator
11-07-05, 12:31 PM
hey did you try that?
haha no been too damn busy.. Actually forgot all about it. lol I'll try to remember to do it next weekend.
Bungles
11-07-05, 12:34 PM
How much time do you think that you'll make up by WOT shifting? Not a whole heck of alot if you think about. It's not worth damaging your car over it unless you have an endless means of $$$
IMO
NYYDYNASTY
11-07-05, 12:38 PM
How much time do you think that you'll make up by WOT shifting? Not a whole heck of alot if you think about. It's not worth damaging your car over it unless you have an endless means of $$$
IMO
you, of all people, should know the value of every .1 second ... WOT shifting will shave off enough time to make a slight difference.
now, is it worth destroying your tranny over a few .1 seconds? thats debatable. Then again, if you're worried about destroying your tranny due to WOT shifting ... you're probably equally hurting your tranny from constant 0-100 mph runs
Bungles
11-07-05, 12:43 PM
you, of all people, should know the value of every .1 second ... WOT shifting will shave off enough time to make a slight difference.
now, is it worth destroying your tranny over a few .1 seconds? thats debatable. Then again, if you're worried about destroying your tranny due to WOT shifting ... you're probably equally hurting your tranny from constant 0-100 mph runs
I can't say that me not WOT shifting is going to give me a 12.9. I don't believe that and won't take that risk. Just IMO. I see the burnout and the launch as the worst part of the equation. Keep the tranny fluid changed and don't grind and your car "should" last.
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