View Full Version : Stages??
usmc srt
08-17-08, 04:00 PM
how do the stages work who can do them ?? i have had the car for a week bare with me. does the ecu get flashed?? :confused:
SuperMario
08-17-08, 04:02 PM
how do the stages work who can do them ?? i have had the car for a week bare with me. does the ecu get flashed?? :confused:
Nope...Ecu's are diffrent Stage 1 ECU, Stage 2 ECU, Stage 2 with Toys ECU... Then Stage 3 comes along with a bigger turbo and a Diffrent ECU. You can get Stage 3 with or without Toys...
SCT now has flashes avalible for 03-05 SRT-4's for all of the ECU's except the 03 Factory ECU....
SuperMario
08-17-08, 04:03 PM
Anyone can do them by the way, You just need to get the ECU re-flashed with your VIN...
Turbo Mark86
08-17-08, 04:05 PM
Hey man stages go from 1 to 3 for mopar. Stage 1 is just an new ecu depending of the year of the car 03 you get bigger injectors but 04 05 already has them. Stage 2 consit of new ecu, wastegate, map, tip sensor, and injectors and the option of toys which you need to run race gas. Stage 3 is probably the best option if you are going to go bigger turbo which is a bit expensive but worth it. It consits of bigger turbo, fuel rail, pump, injectors, wastegate, ecu. I recommened if you just want a fast street car and not track you get stage 2 and just build on it.
Stage 2 (no toys about 1000 with toys 1500.
Stage 3 (3600 give or take)
Stage one you can the ecu for like 250.
usmc srt
08-17-08, 04:06 PM
when you say any one ???? lol and i have my wga i need to flash so the over boost code dosnt come on right??
usmc srt
08-17-08, 04:08 PM
any numbers on what a stage 2 can put out.??? does the dodge dealer need to do this
SuperMario
08-17-08, 04:10 PM
when you say any one ???? lol and i have my wga i need to flash so the over boost code dosnt come on right??
No....Just dont push too much boost. 17lbs is MAX for factory ECU. What year is the car? Also with a aftermarket WGA, you have to learn how to drive it with part throttle bost issues. You will throw overboost codes for that as well...
SuperMario
08-17-08, 04:12 PM
any numbers on what a stage 2 can put out.??? does the dodge dealer need to do this
Numbers vary... 270 whp is what they claim with the Mopar exhaust. But there is a person here that went 12.2 with stage 2 and toys with supporting mods....
usmc srt
08-17-08, 04:14 PM
04 part throttle boost?
usmc srt
08-17-08, 04:15 PM
wow noshit im use to 4g63's that arnt controlled so much by the computer
Turbo Mark86
08-17-08, 04:19 PM
I have stage 2 also with b&b o2 back 3 inch exhaust, agp stage 3 wastegate, msd plugs 8.5mm, ngk sparks, front mount, exhaust depot cold pipe, turboxs bov, south bend stage 3 clutch. Cars quick never ran it yet but should be in the high twelves with slicks
usmc srt
08-17-08, 04:21 PM
no shit. do you still throw codes and how is it economy wise??
Turbo Mark86
08-17-08, 04:53 PM
Its good for everday driving and no i dont throw codes with anything I have. There is no part throttle boost with stage 2 it eliminates it. but stage 2 I spike 20 lbs and drops to 15 to 17lbs no codes
GreenLantern
08-17-08, 07:05 PM
so i have a question now. whats better? an aftermarket turbo? or stg3 w. toys? or could u stage 3 a bigger turbo? because wouldnt it be just the ecu then and the supporting stuff?
SuperMario
08-17-08, 07:14 PM
so i have a question now. whats better? an aftermarket turbo? or stg3 w. toys? or could u stage 3 a bigger turbo? because wouldnt it be just the ecu then and the supporting stuff?
Our turbos are an extention to our exhaust manifold. You cant stage 3 a bigger turbo, although people do offer big wheel stage 3 turbos... yadda yadda.
If you like to tune, go big turbo with one of AGP's kits with ALL off the nessasary supporting mods like returne line, Fuel controller etc..
If you like simplicity to allow the PCM to do all the tuning.. Just pick up the Mopar Stage 3 kit.
If you like the simplicity and big turbo. Get the AGP Stage 3 Delta kit. Big Numbers, big torque, comes with SCT flash for the turbo kit.
1k less then the mopar kit, and you dont have to wait for 6 months to get it.
SuperMario
08-17-08, 07:16 PM
Also from experience.... When people are looking for power from their neons they end up going with a stage 2 with toys or better.
But its seems like the "majority of people" end up selling or taking it off in trade for a big turbo kit...
GreenLantern
08-17-08, 07:18 PM
thats what i thought. thanks
usmc srt
08-17-08, 10:13 PM
what are the toys all about??? high octane mode??
SuperMario
08-17-08, 10:27 PM
Dial a Boost, intercooler sprayer and High octane mode...
usmc srt
08-17-08, 10:42 PM
Is It worth it and how much installed
SuperMario
08-17-08, 11:04 PM
Is It worth it and how much installed
Not trying to be a dick bro.. Check out the search option, and I am sure you will find all the needed info for the basic questions regarding the staged upgrades. it will come as time goes on..
If you do a search.. Try typing in DAB instead of "dial a boost". Also try HOM instead of "high octane mode"
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.12 Copyright © 2012 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.