stage 2 damn

[prsrt4u]

ok i went to e town ,the lowest i could get it was about 13.7 103 trap, my 60 foot were avg 2.10, i ran a few 13.8 at 100 ,my mods are stage 2 no toys factory intake piping to an cone air filter, 2.5 exhaust stock downpipe riceplate msd wires ngk irr gapped at 36 ,i was on my bf's launching at around three ,the tires actually grabbed good it was spiking avg 17 down too 15 ,boost leaks? just slow? i was getting some .335 reaction times ,this sucks im wondering boost leaks ,if not im going back to stage 1 with bolt ons:mad:

[spoolin05srt]

yeah you're gonna need slicks....and more boost

[CaRaZyGuY]

Not to mention you have the halfassed S2 like we all told you in the beginning....

I ran a 13.7 @ 103 off just dropping a S1 Pcm in. 15 drop to 13 stock wga.

[prsrt4u]

yeah you're gonna need slicks....and more boost

should i get a manual boost controller? and how many pounds should i boost?

[EVOHntN]

should i get a manual boost controller? and how many pounds should i boost?
ur number 1 problem that i had as well with stage 2 w/o toys is the rice plate it leaks get a coldside pipe with HKS bov block off factory Surge valve and keep ur boost where it is and go back to the track and retry

[prsrt4u]

yeah im on that ,i think it's leaking, i hear the turbo alot more then i did, and when i hold the rpm's at around 3500 there's a little stumble.

[CaRaZyGuY]

:doh: :cry:

[spoolin05srt]

:doh: :cry:



You beat me to it.... :rolleyes:

[j-bling]

try adding a fm wga to your mods list

[prsrt4u]

:doh: :cry:
:confused: iv'e only had the car for a year, all im asking for is a little help:noball:

[spoolin05srt]

Just look at my mods list. Got me down the track quick and that was before the FMIC and the TB

[prsrt4u]

how do i check for boost leaks?anyone.

[SRT4Trb0]

how do i check for boost leaks?anyone.
a boost leak tester..:rolleyes:

[prsrt4u]

a boost leak tester..:rolleyes:


:mad: :mad: :mad: :noball:

[CaRaZyGuY]

:confused: iv'e only had the car for a year, all im asking for is a little help:noball:


No offense man but I straight up gave you the key to get the car down the track either 12.6 or 12.3. I gave you two setups.... one using stage 1 and a setup using stage 2 with TOYS!

You decided to take a different path that many of us told you to steer away from because of how ineffecient monetarily it is. We all were nice enough to give you the info so you don't have to do trial and error and waste time. My plans/setups with the Mopar Stages work. The car runs GORGEOUSLY just like it feels coming off the production line except a lot more go.

I'll try helping you again.... SELL THE S2 and put back on your S1. Then PM me for the rest. I'll get you in the 12's in no time.

[oo3menace]

What was your 60'? Do you have a driver mod?

[prsrt4u]

What was your 60'? Do you have a driver mod?

2.08 60 ft d/r, driver believe i do.

[CaRaZyGuY]

That's really not that bad, if the car was putting down power it would have netted you a decent time with a 2.0.

Jon what are you talking about driver mod? Does apexi make that or apc?

[spoolin05srt]

That's really not that bad, if the car was putting down power it would have netted you a decent time with a 2.0.
Jon what are you talking about driver mod? Does apexi make that or apc?


NO NO!! AGP

[CaRaZyGuY]

:eek: O boy iz mus b gettn dat dere mod fo sho.

[SRT4Trb0]

how much is it?

[CaRaZyGuY]

WOuld you like it in US dolla o Peso's?

[SRT4Trb0]

i can pay in m&m's

[CaRaZyGuY]

Did i mention I went to NYC M&M World and I got TAB colored M&M's... They are fabolous.

[N2MB]

stage 2 without toys is essentially a 5 pound paperweight

[prsrt4u]

stage 2 without toys is essentially a 5 pound paperweight
yeah:emb:

[CaRaZyGuY]

yeah:emb:


Listen to us first and don't get bashed.... Harsh but tru on this site.

[Sauce]

:doh:
some people just like to learn the hard way...........

[prsrt4u]

:doh:
some people just like to learn the hard way...........

:mad: :noball:

[FreshRedSkittl]

what about stage 2 with jays toy box

[srtprince]

stage 2 without toys is essentially a 5 pound paperweight

nah, don't listen to these guys.

s2 no toys just needs a little help (needswings dump or 3" exhaust)

end of season last year I did a few 13.4s on stock kdw's trapping 106-7.

two weeks ago I ran 4 13.5s @ 106 (pretty consistent).

s2 w/o and 3" see last year - open dump this year (just for fun).

You can do these #s with map clamp, wga, but that's pure ghetto.

[prsrt4u]

nah, don't listen to these guys.
s2 no toys just needs a little help (needswings dump or 3" exhaust)
end of season last year I did a few 13.4s on stock kdw's trapping 106-7.
two weeks ago I ran 4 13.5s @ 106 (pretty consistent).
s2 w/o and 3" see last year - open dump this year (just for fun).
You can do these #s with map clamp, wga, but that's pure ghetto.

im keeping it ,i just installed atp cold side with real greddy rs, and fm wastegate 18 drop 15, and i know i had boost leaks with riceplate, it's way stronger now i ran 13.7 103 with the leaks stock downpipe and 2.5 inch exhaust ,im keeping stage 2, next down the line is e1 or 50 trim, but this car better get me high 12's with stock turbo ,ohh and i have a stock intake too.:emb:

[CaRaZyGuY]

nah, don't listen to these guys.
s2 no toys just needs a little help (needswings dump or 3" exhaust)
end of season last year I did a few 13.4s on stock kdw's trapping 106-7.
two weeks ago I ran 4 13.5s @ 106 (pretty consistent).
s2 w/o and 3" see last year - open dump this year (just for fun).
You can do these #s with map clamp, wga, but that's pure ghetto.

Those numbers are absolutely nothing to brag about. I would be ashamed if in fact I ever ran mid 13's off of what you spent in mods. As far as who you are telling not to listen to is another problem you have. Do some research. You are talking to the veterans of SRT4s and know what we are talking about and all have plenty of slips to show to you we know what to do and how to do it.

[DAROOKE]

Froto ran stage 2 with out toys and ran a 12.212@112.23. That was faster then what you ran with stage 1 tom. He needs an after market waste gate and seat time.
PRst4u do you have a wide band? What was the a/f?

[Frodo]

Froto ran stage 2 with out toys and ran a 12.212@112.23. That was faster then what you ran with stage 1 tom. He needs an after market waste gate and seat time.
PRst4u do you have a wide band? What was the a/f?
I have toys. I ran that time with a forge wga, ebc, exhaust, tb, intake, and a big fmic, and s2 with toys obviously. My afr was still 10:1 on race gas and 21 psi

[Turbo Mark86]

I like stage 2 myself Im having some problems with it but....I got agp waste stage 2 w/o toys exhaust depot cold and rfl bov 8.5 mm wires ngk plugs car at 22psi probably will run 13 flat maybe high 12s with different tires just sometimes my car doesnt like 2 start with the stage 2 ecu

[prsrt4u]

Froto ran stage 2 with out toys and ran a 12.212@112.23. That was faster then what you ran with stage 1 tom. He needs an after market waste gate and seat time.
PRst4u do you have a wide band? What was the a/f?

no i don't, but that's one of my next steps.:cool:

[prsrt4u]

is 18 pounds of boost sound good without wideband dropping to 15? i have msd wires, and 1 degree colder ngk's, the car feels alot diffrent now ,i believe i had leaks, and im planning on buying a boost leak detector ,it was at around 16 dropping to 15 14 with the s2 wastegate ,the fm feels great, and the extra 3 pounds are noticed ,now i need a 3inch downpipe, and im sure it will wake it up.

[CaRaZyGuY]

Froto ran stage 2 with out toys and ran a 12.212@112.23. That was faster then what you ran with stage 1 tom. He needs an after market waste gate and seat time.
PRst4u do you have a wide band? What was the a/f?


Fail... and i had 1200 bucks in mods that got me 12.7@109 and a bunch of other 12 second times on just drs. With a couple more bucks on slicks got me consecutive 12.6s.

What did you get on your old 50trim setup or the built engine (11.973 and some 12s)? What did other guys you affiliate with get with their "unique" setups? I agree there's no room for argument if you have money to dump in the car and if you have that much time to keep tuning and adjusting and going to the track to TRY to get good times then there are other ways. I am telling him the quickest, easiest, cheapest and most reliable way that is PROVEN. I would never say anything without the proof.

[spoolin05srt]

Once Again....12.3@108 WIHTOUT A BIG FMIC OR PORTED TB LISTED IN MY SIG. There is no need for "seat time" or "tuning". Just do it right the first time.

[spoolin05srt]

is 18 pounds of boost sound good without wideband dropping to 15? i have msd wires, and 1 degree colder ngk's, the car feels alot diffrent now ,i believe i had leaks, and im planning on buying a boost leak detector ,it was at around 16 dropping to 15 14 with the s2 wastegate ,the fm feels great, and the extra 3 pounds are noticed ,now i need a 3inch downpipe, and im sure it will wake it up.


Crank that shit up and check for leaks. You can spike 20-21 psi no problem with your setup. And get an OPEN DOWNPIPE!!!!

[CaRaZyGuY]

HERE's an old post on what Stock turbo Stage 1 can do for ya....
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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/B54C3D96-9F92-4763-AFCE-CCA486FF35CA.htm

This was at Atco on Mother's Day.

My car did what I wanted out of it, my runs went like this -

12.8, 12.7, 12.7, 13.2, 12.8, 12.7, 13.0. The best run of the day was my 12.705 @ 109.35 w/ a 1.937 60ft.

I'm only spiking 19 holding 14-15 (3rd gear). For having less than $2000 invested i'm content.

Mopar Stage 1
Mopar Cat Delete
Mopar Cat-Back
Mopar Short Throw Shifter
PSI FI Direct Fit FMIC
JMB Pressure Pipe Package
HKS SSQV
Foward Motion Wastegate - ran off stock line setup
BFG Drag Radials 225-50-15
K&N Drop in
NGK Iridiums .036 gap
PTP Check Valve






**********Please excuse the ricer tailights and shopping cart handle**********

[prsrt4u]

okay, i will see what it does in about a month, i plan on going with a three inch downpipe ,and get some sort of wideband.ohh and fm wastegate ftmw.

[boostedsohc]

Fail... and i had 1200 bucks in mods that got me 12.7@109 and a bunch of other 12 second times on just drs. With a couple more bucks on slicks got me consecutive 12.6s.
What did you get on your old 50trim setup or the built engine (11.973 and some 12s)? What did other guys you affiliate with get with their "unique" setups? I agree there's no room for argument if you have money to dump in the car and if you have that much time to keep tuning and adjusting and going to the track to TRY to get good times then there are other ways. I am telling him the quickest, easiest, cheapest and most reliable way that is PROVEN. I would never say anything without the proof.

i affiliate with mike so am i on that list? my srt still has stock air box in it. i really don't care about running the srt or goin for gold. i'm happy with it the way it sits. one out of the 8 times i ran my srt was 13.5. some bolts on and s0. theres always someone faster in the end.

[N2MB]

Fail... and i had 1200 bucks in mods that got me 12.7@109 and a bunch of other 12 second times on just drs. With a couple more bucks on slicks got me consecutive 12.6s.
What did you get on your old 50trim setup or the built engine (11.973 and some 12s)? What did other guys you affiliate with get with their "unique" setups? I agree there's no room for argument if you have money to dump in the car and if you have that much time to keep tuning and adjusting and going to the track to TRY to get good times then there are other ways. I am telling him the quickest, easiest, cheapest and most reliable way that is PROVEN. I would never say anything without the proof.
im affiliated with him and you fail lol

i ran 11.7 with a stage 1 that i picked up for 150
a nitrous kit that i picked up for 499
a wastegate for 75
and a front mount that cost me 350

so technically i spent less than you and i went 11.7@124 and i repeatedly ran 11's.didnt you also go back to running consistent 12.2's after that one mid 11? and thats a 3600 stage 3 kit no?

i also have a bunch of other guys that i setup with stage 1 and stage 0 pcms that ran low 12's as well...shit bungles did 12.4 with a slipping clutch on his stock turbo!

in mikes defense however there is a ginormous difference between yours and his. he has no seat time in the new setup and my tune is very conservative.for an 11.9@121 on a night when the track just wasnt there is super stout!! the car wil only get quicker too.that motor is built perfectly and can handle alot more timing.the meth wasnt even on!!

vic had a extremely similar setup and we went 11.1@128 on the same exact turbo.

[N2MB]

the car also gained 31 mph in the back half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats moving!!

once the boost control is sorted out and he can hold 28-30 pounds all the way out the door that car can run a 10...thats a big difference than a stage whatever running a 12 whatever imo

[DAROOKE]

I have toys. I ran that time with a forge wga, ebc, exhaust, tb, intake, and a big fmic, and s2 with toys obviously. My afr was still 10:1 on race gas and 21 psi

My bad. it's been a long time since i saw you. I thought you had stage 2 without. Great times anyway.

[DAROOKE]

Fail... and i had 1200 bucks in mods that got me 12.7@109 and a bunch of other 12 second times on just drs. With a couple more bucks on slicks got me consecutive 12.6s.
What did you get on your old 50trim setup or the built engine (11.973 and some 12s)? What did other guys you affiliate with get with their "unique" setups? I agree there's no room for argument if you have money to dump in the car and if you have that much time to keep tuning and adjusting and going to the track to TRY to get good times then there are other ways. I am telling him the quickest, easiest, cheapest and most reliable way that is PROVEN. I would never say anything without the proof.

You are so conceided that you took my statement as a personal attack against you. What does me bringing up stage 2 runing better times then yours(although i was wrong) have to do with my setup or my friends?
You think because you ran some good times with a stage1 and a stage 3 that everything else is wrong. You can get great times from stage 2 as long as you lean it out.
As for my setup I did not use a stage3 setup because i wanted to run faster times then 11's. My plan all along was to go 35r or larger(hense the built motor) I guess i could have taken the easy way out and ordered a stage3. thats what you would do right? Take a job from your parents, live off there hard work. Invite people to a srt-4 meet that happend to be a birthday party for you.:rofl:
As for my car when it's done getting tuned. I will we see you at the track big mouth.

You know what, I beleive Tom and Chris are the only perfect people that i have ever met. They ran perfect there first time at the track. They don't need seat time so no one does. use there setup or your wrong.

[j-bling]

You are so conceided that you took my statement as a personal attack against you. What does me bringing up stage 2 runing better times then yours(although i was wrong) have to do with my setup or my friends?
You think because you ran some good times with a stage1 and a stage 3 that everything else is wrong. You can get great times from stage 2 as long as you lean it out.
As for my setup I did not use a stage3 setup because i wanted to run faster times then 11's. My plan all along was to go 35r or larger(hense the built motor) I guess i could have taken the easy way out and ordered a stage3. thats what you would do right? Take a job from your parents, live off there hard work. Invite people to a srt-4 meet that happend to be a birthday party for you.:rofl:
As for my car when it's done getting tuned. I will we see you at the track big mouth.
You know what, I beleive Tom and Chris are the only perfect people that i have ever met. They ran perfect there first time at the track. They don't need seat time so no one does. use there setup or your wrong.
I'M PERRRRRRFECT, JUST ASK ME AND I'LL TELL YOU SO. I RUN A UNIQUE SETUP, DOES IT MEAN IT IS WRONG?BTW, I AFFILIATE MYSELF WITH DAROOKE

[CaRaZyGuY]

i affiliate with mike so am i on that list? my srt still has stock air box in it. i really don't care about running the srt or goin for gold. i'm happy with it the way it sits. one out of the 8 times i ran my srt was 13.5. some bolts on and s0. theres always someone faster in the end.

You were never even thought of, i forgot you even owned an srt lol...


im affiliated with him and you fail lol
i ran 11.7 with a stage 1 that i picked up for 150
a nitrous kit that i picked up for 499
a wastegate for 75
and a front mount that cost me 350
so technically i spent less than you and i went 11.7@124 and i repeatedly ran 11's.didnt you also go back to running consistent 12.2's after that one mid 11? and thats a 3600 stage 3 kit no?
i also have a bunch of other guys that i setup with stage 1 and stage 0 pcms that ran low 12's as well...shit bungles did 12.4 with a slipping clutch on his stock turbo!
in mikes defense however there is a ginormous difference between yours and his. he has no seat time in the new setup and my tune is very conservative.for an 11.9@121 on a night when the track just wasnt there is super stout!! the car wil only get quicker too.that motor is built perfectly and can handle alot more timing.the meth wasnt even on!!
vic had a extremely similar setup and we went 11.1@128 on the same exact turbo.


No i did 3 passes on S3 11.8, 11.8 and 11.6 No seat time either.... I bolted the slicks on and went for it. I haven't seen 12's since the old stage 1 setup. You saw my other attempt at englishtown; broke an axle. I never ran since but i will soon... S3 Kit was 3200, i don't have any connections or ins with any srt guru so that's the best I could do with all my part prices.

Btw telling people how to run 11's your way is a great way to drum up business.... I also included the cost of wheels and drag radials to the S1 writeup, not that it means anything :D


You are so conceided that you took my statement as a personal attack against you. What does me bringing up stage 2 runing better times then yours(although i was wrong) have to do with my setup or my friends?
You think because you ran some good times with a stage1 and a stage 3 that everything else is wrong. You can get great times from stage 2 as long as you lean it out.
As for my setup I did not use a stage3 setup because i wanted to run faster times then 11's. My plan all along was to go 35r or larger(hense the built motor) I guess i could have taken the easy way out and ordered a stage3. thats what you would do right? Take a job from your parents, live off there hard work. Invite people to a srt-4 meet that happend to be a birthday party for you.:rofl:
As for my car when it's done getting tuned. I will we see you at the track big mouth.
You know what, I beleive Tom and Chris are the only perfect people that i have ever met. They ran perfect there first time at the track. They don't need seat time so no one does. use there setup or your wrong.

I actually re-read over your post and I have to appologize I really skimmed it and saw it as a dig towards me. I'm use to it on here especially from your group. So that's the only reason why I brought up your car and other people's setups. The only thing i didn't understand was the fact people were giving him information on what to do and what to buy however they are leading him to something that wasn't tested and a proven good.

I never said you can't run good times with S2 without toys, bang for the buck like i explained to him in a PM he could sell the S2 without toys and keep the s1 he already has. He can use the money to buy more mods that he could use to go faster. S2w/o is more expensive than S1 so he can make more from the sale which = more money for mods.

Also i am a firm believer in the mopar way, where they don't have to tune everyday (or at all for that matter) because not everyone has a Jay in their backpocket. It takes time and something upstairs to figure out how to properly tune a modded car to run right and run safely. A lot of kids see how fancy all the aftermarket are like the dtec and other ems but don't know how to use it properly and are damaging their investment/car.

I don't know if you notice how this all started, I was defending the statement that someone said in reference to JAY's paperweight statement. Saying the original poster should not listen to Jay or some other people on here that have proven setups and that know what they are talking about - especially Jay... Then you brought up a false statement directly to me. Again, sorry I took the typing the wrong way and after reading it again I think I see where you were coming from. PS i wasn't doing 65 on rt. 9 :(

[CaRaZyGuY]

Take a job from your parents, live off there hard work. Invite people to a srt-4 meet that happend to be a birthday party for you.:rofl:


Yea your right that's what i'm doing... I didn't put any time in, should have done something else just to save me from the people that didn't have the opportunity or that didn't take it talk... :dunno: I thought I was doing the right thing, giving back to people that supported me as a kid and brought me up in this world; put clothes on my back and a roof over my head. I thought giving my parents a reliable employee that is watching out for them instead of all the other employees that are out for themselves was the right thing to do. I guess I work as hard as I do for nothing huh? because it doesn't count, it's owned and ran by my parents...

About the bday party... If you knew what you were talking about, you would know Kenny set the date for that meet. It landed on my bday which I was going to be at the TiKI Bar anyways. My parents threw me a suprise bday party that day. Funny how we still had 60+ people that didn't even belong to any car group or site. Those people must have been paid off too that showed up. However my parents were nice enough that if someone was there they told them to grab some food. Wow must be really sucky people to do that. Oh and all the family and real friends are just posers I guess.

You are stand up guy you know that?

[N2MB]

i stand firmly behind my statement that stage 2 without toys is a paperweight.i dont care who says what..i didnt learn what i know from the internet or a book,i went out and did it myself.i have tested everything in these cars and i know what works and what doesnt.when someone has done what ive done with these cars and wants to argue the fact then i will listen but until that happens...........paperweight :)


im not sure what you meant by drumming up business so i wont comment on that.however i will make a mopar comment.the mopar performance division are a bunch of businessmen.there are some cool guys that have been involved with pvo but to speak for mopar themselves they can **** my left ***. their parts are rediculously priced and they all have pompous attitudes.i wouldnt bother arguing the point either because i could rant for a year straight on reasons why because i have about 20 years worth of reasons

[CaRaZyGuY]

i stand firmly behind my statement that stage 2 without toys is a paperweight.i dont care who says what..i didnt learn what i know from the internet or a book,i went out and did it myself.i have tested everything in these cars and i know what works and what doesnt.when someone has done what ive done with these cars and wants to argue the fact then i will listen but until that happens...........paperweight :)

im not sure what you meant by drumming up business so i wont comment on that.however i will make a mopar comment.the mopar performance division are a bunch of businessmen.there are some cool guys that have been involved with pvo but to speak for mopar themselves they can **** my left ***. their parts are rediculously priced and they all have pompous attitudes.i wouldnt bother arguing the point either because i could rant for a year straight on reasons why because i have about 20 years worth of reasons

Kids + SRT4 + Trying to do what Jay did + nitrious = http://robotronik.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/atomic_bomb_explosion_2.jpg

Which in turn = N2MB hotline ringing. ---> A joke. :doh:


They knew what they were doing when they launched the car. They knew the market well and they setup a nice lil aftermarket sales gig to create them more profit. Businessmen they are. I haven't ever had any contact with them so I believe ya and wouldn't doubt a word your saying.

[N2MB]

nitrous is safe....why else would it be in every dentist office in the country

[EVOHntN]

Im gunna jump in not on any side.... I have stage 2 w/o toys and its worked for me.... I personally dont mind tuning it... I dont have to tune it everyday I just have a nice safe tune... I made reasonable number to my liking on the dyno and thats that... Let the kid do what he wants is his car... Hes gotta take the car in his direction and explore the aftermarket world mopar or not... Ive had a lot of fun trying and exploring new mods... Im not saying stage 2 w/o toys is for everyone at first I was a strong believe that it sucked the royal left nut but Ive made it work... (sidenote) I drive the car to drive it not for track numbers so dont go there...

[j-bling]

No i did 3 passes on S3 11.8, 11.8 and 11.6 No seat time either.... I bolted the slicks on and went for it. I haven't seen 12's since the old stage 1 setup. You saw my other attempt at englishtown; broke an axle. I never ran since but i will soon... S3 Kit was 3200, i don't have any connections or ins with any srt guru so that's the best I could do with all my part prices.
Btw telling people how to run 11's your way is a great way to drum up business.... I also included the cost of wheels and drag radials to the S1 writeup, not that it means anything :D
11.8, 11.8, 11.65.... you didnt back up your 11.65, just 11.8
I actually re-read over your post and I have to appologize I really skimmed it and saw it as a dig towards me. I'm use to it on here especially from your group. So that's the only reason why I brought up your car and other people's setups. The only thing i didn't understand was the fact people were giving him information on what to do and what to buy however they are leading him to something that wasn't tested and a proven good.
I never said you can't run good times with S2 without toys, bang for the buck like i explained to him in a PM he could sell the S2 without toys and keep the s1 he already has. He can use the money to buy more mods that he could use to go faster. S2w/o is more expensive than S1 so he can make more from the sale which = more money for mods.
Also i am a firm believer in the mopar way, where they don't have to tune everyday (or at all for that matter) because not everyone has a Jay in their backpocket. It takes time and something upstairs to figure out how to properly tune a modded car to run right and run safely. A lot of kids see how fancy all the aftermarket are like the dtec and other ems but don't know how to use it properly and are damaging their investment/car.
I don't know if you notice how this all started, I was defending the statement that someone said in reference to JAY's paperweight statement. Saying the original poster should not listen to Jay or some other people on here that have proven setups and that know what they are talking about - especially Jay... Then you brought up a false statement directly to me. Again, sorry I took the typing the wrong way and after reading it again I think I see where you were coming from. PS i wasn't doing 65 on rt. 9 :([/QUOTE]
you are an asshat

try adding a fm wga to your mods listwhats wrong with a fm wga, didnt you and chris use it on your s1/s2 setups?

[j-bling]

No i did 3 passes on S3 11.8, 11.8 and 11.6 No seat time either.... I bolted the slicks on and went for it. I haven't seen 12's since the old stage 1 setup. You saw my other attempt at englishtown; broke an axle. I never ran since but i will soon... S3 Kit was 3200, i don't have any connections or ins with any srt guru so that's the best I could do with all my part prices.
Btw telling people how to run 11's your way is a great way to drum up business.... I also included the cost of wheels and drag radials to the S1 writeup, not that it means anything :D
11.8, 11.8, 11.65.... I didnt back up my 11.65, just my 11.8
I actually re-read over your post and I have to appologize I really skimmed it and saw it as a dig towards me. I'm use to it on here especially from your group. So that's the only reason why I brought up your car and other people's setups. The only thing i didn't understand was the fact people were giving him information on what to do and what to buy however they are leading him to something that wasn't tested and a proven good.
I never said you can't run good times with S2 without toys, bang for the buck like i explained to him in a PM he could sell the S2 without toys and keep the s1 he already has. He can use the money to buy more mods that he could use to go faster. S2w/o is more expensive than S1 so he can make more from the sale which = more money for mods.
Also i am a firm believer in the mopar way, where they don't have to tune everyday (or at all for that matter) because not everyone has a Jay in their backpocket. It takes time and something upstairs to figure out how to properly tune a modded car to run right and run safely. A lot of kids see how fancy all the aftermarket are like the dtec and other ems but don't know how to use it properly and are damaging their investment/car.
I don't know if you notice how this all started, I was defending the statement that someone said in reference to JAY's paperweight statement. Saying the original poster should not listen to Jay or some other people on here that have proven setups and that know what they are talking about - especially Jay... Then you brought up a false statement directly to me. Again, sorry I took the typing the wrong way and after reading it again I think I see where you were coming from. PS i wasn't doing 65 on rt. 9 :([/QUOTE]
Iam an asshat

try adding a fm wga to your mods listwhats wrong with a fm wga, didnt you and chris use it on your s1/s2 setups?

[SRT4Trb0]

No i did 3 passes on S3 11.8, 11.8 and 11.6 No seat time either.... I bolted the slicks on and went for it. I haven't seen 12's since the old stage 1 setup. You saw my other attempt at englishtown; broke an axle. I never ran since but i will soon... S3 Kit was 3200, i don't have any connections or ins with any srt guru so that's the best I could do with all my part prices.
Btw telling people how to run 11's your way is a great way to drum up business.... I also included the cost of wheels and drag radials to the S1 writeup, not that it means anything :D
11.8, 11.8, 11.65.... you didnt back up your 11.65, just 11.8
I actually re-read over your post and I have to appologize I really skimmed it and saw it as a dig towards me. I'm use to it on here especially from your group. So that's the only reason why I brought up your car and other people's setups. The only thing i didn't understand was the fact people were giving him information on what to do and what to buy however they are leading him to something that wasn't tested and a proven good.
I never said you can't run good times with S2 without toys, bang for the buck like i explained to him in a PM he could sell the S2 without toys and keep the s1 he already has. He can use the money to buy more mods that he could use to go faster. S2w/o is more expensive than S1 so he can make more from the sale which = more money for mods.
Also i am a firm believer in the mopar way, where they don't have to tune everyday (or at all for that matter) because not everyone has a Jay in their backpocket. It takes time and something upstairs to figure out how to properly tune a modded car to run right and run safely. A lot of kids see how fancy all the aftermarket are like the dtec and other ems but don't know how to use it properly and are damaging their investment/car.
I don't know if you notice how this all started, I was defending the statement that someone said in reference to JAY's paperweight statement. Saying the original poster should not listen to Jay or some other people on here that have proven setups and that know what they are talking about - especially Jay... Then you brought up a false statement directly to me. Again, sorry I took the typing the wrong way and after reading it again I think I see where you were coming from. PS i wasn't doing 65 on rt. 9 :(
you are an asshat
whats wrong with a fm wga, didnt you and chris use it on your s1/s2 setups?[/QUOTE]

No i did 3 passes on S3 11.8, 11.8 and 11.6 No seat time either.... I bolted the slicks on and went for it. I haven't seen 12's since the old stage 1 setup. You saw my other attempt at englishtown; broke an axle. I never ran since but i will soon... S3 Kit was 3200, i don't have any connections or ins with any srt guru so that's the best I could do with all my part prices.
Btw telling people how to run 11's your way is a great way to drum up business.... I also included the cost of wheels and drag radials to the S1 writeup, not that it means anything :D
11.8, 11.8, 11.65.... I didnt back up my 11.65, just my 11.8
I actually re-read over your post and I have to appologize I really skimmed it and saw it as a dig towards me. I'm use to it on here especially from your group. So that's the only reason why I brought up your car and other people's setups. The only thing i didn't understand was the fact people were giving him information on what to do and what to buy however they are leading him to something that wasn't tested and a proven good.
I never said you can't run good times with S2 without toys, bang for the buck like i explained to him in a PM he could sell the S2 without toys and keep the s1 he already has. He can use the money to buy more mods that he could use to go faster. S2w/o is more expensive than S1 so he can make more from the sale which = more money for mods.
Also i am a firm believer in the mopar way, where they don't have to tune everyday (or at all for that matter) because not everyone has a Jay in their backpocket. It takes time and something upstairs to figure out how to properly tune a modded car to run right and run safely. A lot of kids see how fancy all the aftermarket are like the dtec and other ems but don't know how to use it properly and are damaging their investment/car.
I don't know if you notice how this all started, I was defending the statement that someone said in reference to JAY's paperweight statement. Saying the original poster should not listen to Jay or some other people on here that have proven setups and that know what they are talking about - especially Jay... Then you brought up a false statement directly to me. Again, sorry I took the typing the wrong way and after reading it again I think I see where you were coming from. PS i wasn't doing 65 on rt. 9 :(
Iam an asshat
whats wrong with a fm wga, didnt you and chris use it on your s1/s2 setups?[/QUOTE]
huh?

[CaRaZyGuY]

Someone doesn't know how to work the forums to well. He added that asshat in trying being funny but messed up the quoting...

In my opinion (not that matters) the FM wga for stock turbo's are one of the best because of the spring and how easy it is to tune. Also those guys over there at Forward Motion are a pleasure to talk to.

[prsrt4u]

im staying with my stage 2 .call me mister paperwieght:rofl: :rofl:

[prsrt4u]

No i did 3 passes on S3 11.8, 11.8 and 11.6 No seat time either.... I bolted the slicks on and went for it. I haven't seen 12's since the old stage 1 setup. You saw my other attempt at englishtown; broke an axle. I never ran since but i will soon... S3 Kit was 3200, i don't have any connections or ins with any srt guru so that's the best I could do with all my part prices.
Btw telling people how to run 11's your way is a great way to drum up business.... I also included the cost of wheels and drag radials to the S1 writeup, not that it means anything :D
11.8, 11.8, 11.65.... I didnt back up my 11.65, just my 11.8
I actually re-read over your post and I have to appologize I really skimmed it and saw it as a dig towards me. I'm use to it on here especially from your group. So that's the only reason why I brought up your car and other people's setups. The only thing i didn't understand was the fact people were giving him information on what to do and what to buy however they are leading him to something that wasn't tested and a proven good.
I never said you can't run good times with S2 without toys, bang for the buck like i explained to him in a PM he could sell the S2 without toys and keep the s1 he already has. He can use the money to buy more mods that he could use to go faster. S2w/o is more expensive than S1 so he can make more from the sale which = more money for mods.
Also i am a firm believer in the mopar way, where they don't have to tune everyday (or at all for that matter) because not everyone has a Jay in their backpocket. It takes time and something upstairs to figure out how to properly tune a modded car to run right and run safely. A lot of kids see how fancy all the aftermarket are like the dtec and other ems but don't know how to use it properly and are damaging their investment/car.
I don't know if you notice how this all started, I was defending the statement that someone said in reference to JAY's paperweight statement. Saying the original poster should not listen to Jay or some other people on here that have proven setups and that know what they are talking about - especially Jay... Then you brought up a false statement directly to me. Again, sorry I took the typing the wrong way and after reading it again I think I see where you were coming from. PS i wasn't doing 65 on rt. 9 :(
Iam an asshat
whats wrong with a fm wga, didnt you and chris use it on your s1/s2 setups?[/QUOTE]
:confused: :confused: :emb:

[srtprince]

Those numbers are absolutely nothing to brag about. I would be ashamed if in fact I ever ran mid 13's off of what you spent in mods. As far as who you are telling not to listen to is another problem you have. Do some research. You are talking to the veterans of SRT4s and know what we are talking about and all have plenty of slips to show to you we know what to do and how to do it.

Are you math challenged?

[j-bling]

Someone doesn't know how to work the forums to well. He added that asshat in trying being funny but messed up the quoting...
no, i didn't mees up the quoting, asshat
In my opinion (not that matters) the FM wga for stock turbo's are one of the best because of the spring and how easy it is to tune. Also those guys over there at Forward Motion are a pleasure to talk to.
the only statement you made that you can back up.

btw, how did you make out running that kid with the silver car, i forget his name. he said something about you being bus lengths behind and he had a unique setup.

[psi chick]

omg it's like the retard olympics in here. what's wrong with you people? stop attacking each other, stop bragging and/or being an asshole and everyone get over yourselves.

[oo3menace]

:locked: DO IT Ameh DO IT. :lol:

I hate darooke, Jay, J-bling, Evohntn, Srtprince, Tom, and Chris cause you're all gay internet brawlers...on top of being meat gazers...which I don't mind too much, no homo. :hide_behi :gaywave:

Can't we all just get along? Or ignore each other and pretend we do?

[psi chick]

i'm debating locking this, or at least moving it to ws.

[NYYDYNASTY]

:drool:
meat gazers.

no one does it better than menace :woohoo:

[oo3menace]

either way I really don't care :lol: I just wanna see the ban stick come out. :banme:

[oo3menace]

:drool:
meat gazers.
no one does it better than menace :woohoo:
SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...you told me you wouldn't tell anyone...STOP THAT!

[psi chick]

no one's getting banned :lol:

[NYYDYNASTY]

no, you'll end up getting it 'cause you asked

[prsrt4u]

i'm debating locking this, or at least moving it to ws.

this was all about my slow stage 2 ,and how to make it run better, crazyguy and spoolin and evohuntn were helping me ,and then it turned into this:confused: :mad:

[psi chick]

ok this thread is officially over. everyone take your egos and put them away now. thanks.