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anyone on here have this yet. i really must be out of the loop because today is the first time i heard about this for our cars.
Grifter
12-04-07, 05:37 PM
anyone on here have this yet. i really must be out of the loop because today is the first time i heard about this for our cars.
I think DAROOKE was looking into it.
DAROOKE
12-04-07, 05:55 PM
Yea, I looked into it. They just got the stock ecu to control boost with no boost controler and they just got the 3bar map and tip sensor working with it. In a couple of months people will have all of the bugs worked out and it will be a good alternative to a piggypack.
Yea, I looked into it. They just got the stock ecu to control boost with no boost controler and they just got the 3bar map and tip sensor working with it. In a couple of months people will have all of the bugs worked out and it will be a good alternative to a piggypack.
sounds like a great alternate to a standalone
can you control things like timing with it? It would be awsome to control boost with stock lines
psi chick
12-04-07, 08:05 PM
the sct from what i understand does not do nearly what a standalone does. it is not meant as a replacement for a ems, but a replacement for a piggyback. for most people though it's all that they need. for those with more specific needs a ems is still a better option.
the sct from what i understand does not do nearly what a standalone does. it is not meant as a replacement for a ems, but a replacement for a piggyback. for most people though it's all that they need. for those with more specific needs a ems is still a better option.
obvioiusly it wont do all that ems can do. i see it as a happy medium for people who want more than a piggyback and dont really need the extreme of a standalone
Actually, the SCT has full control over the PCM, which means fuel, timing, boost, AC, 2 step, traction control, etc... The factor that sets the EMS apart from the SCT is with EMS you can control outside variables and have maps to dial them in, such as nitrous, W/I, additional high/low side drivers plus you can directly integrate your wideband into it.
The SCT is for someone who wants full control but doesnt need all the extra features. EMS is for someone who intends to race their car. Just my 2c
I'm looking forward to people starting to get tunes built for 50trim and larger turbos that don't require piggybacks or hacks/tricks to make things work reliably and for daily driving.
i think my biggest question is: i heard that it can control boost through stock solenoids, will it have any problem controlling boost through the stock solenoids with an external wastegate? i cant wait to see what people are able to do with this thing
no problem at all. You should be good for around 25psi out of the factory solenoids.
Too Tall
01-31-08, 08:17 AM
anyone have one yet, and can say if it works well
i know someone down here who's trying to get one, i'll let you know how it works for him.......
if someone has it ill tune it for free so i can learn the software
I'm waiting to see if people manage to make the toys (and obviously the toybox) work properly. I know of a guy in AZ that has effectively the stage 3 load on his S0 computer, but claims toys don't work.
slvrsrt4nj
02-01-08, 05:29 PM
this is my first time of hearing about sct for the srt4. sounds like a great tuner for people that dont wana spend mucho dinero for ems and tuning but want some tuning. im torn between dtec and safc neo :confused:
boostedneon04
02-01-08, 05:36 PM
this is my first time of hearing about sct for the srt4. sounds like a great tuner for people that dont wana spend mucho dinero for ems and tuning but want some tuning. im torn between dtec and safc neo :confused:
dtec or ems
srtprince
02-01-08, 05:36 PM
SCT doesn't replace a piggyback, it re-programs the factory pcm.
For most users this is a better choice than a stand alone.
A piggyback can be used concurrently.
AGP is doing some great work with the flashes right now.
I'd like to see n2mb get in on the action.
nice thing about an SCT re-flash, you should still pass inspection as the ODB2 system is still fully functional.
I think it's going to be an excellent method of extracting power out of various setups with the reliability and adaptability of full computer control.
is it cheaper than a standalone, however if you dont get the expensive version then you cant tune it yourself at all, and gong back and forth getting it tuned will get costly
Grifter
02-01-08, 06:14 PM
is it cheaper than a standalone, however if you dont get the expensive version then you cant tune it yourself at all, and gong back and forth getting it tuned will get costly
It's how a lot of Mustang's get tuned; mailorder tunes which are a waste IMO. You spend all that money on parts and you can't dish out some more to get you car tuned to exactly the way it should be? I am not doubting that mailorder tunes, I know they work but I wouldn't get one for my car if I could. Everytime it needs a re-tune, it's get strapped back on the dyno.
is it cheaper than a standalone, however if you dont get the expensive version then you cant tune it yourself at all, and gong back and forth getting it tuned will get costly
I think the point though is you don't need to be constantly tuning it. it's not like a dtec or a safc that gets confused every time the weather changes a couple of degrees. since it still is the factory ECU you're (dumbing it down a bit) just running different tables for fuel and timing. But you CAN setup those tables to handle different injectors, 3bar MAP sensor, larger turbo, etc. Now your car has the ability to adjust to changing conditions just like the OEM setup.
Srt4Rob
02-01-08, 09:34 PM
if someone has it ill tune it for free so i can learn the software
damn.... thats an offer right there
im getting the ems this week ... but now this kinda set me off track ...
cuse with the ems imma need around 800-1000 dollars in tunning money for you
and if i go with the SCT route i get it tuned for free??
idk ... jay what do u think would be the better choice for my car .. ??? EMS ??
damn.... thats an offer right there
im getting the ems this week ... but now this kinda set me off track ...
cuse with the ems imma need around 800-1000 dollars in tunning money for you
and if i go with the SCT route i get it tuned for free??
idk ... jay what do u think would be the better choice for my car .. ??? EMS ??
lol yes ems....there is no learning curve for me
It's how a lot of Mustang's get tuned; mailorder tunes which are a waste IMO. You spend all that money on parts and you can't dish out some more to get you car tuned to exactly the way it should be? I am not doubting that mailorder tunes, I know they work but I wouldn't get one for my car if I could. Everytime it needs a re-tune, it's get strapped back on the dyno.
This is how i tune my car right now the SCT is really cool, you could change all sorts of things like top speed limiter, axle ratio, clear check engine lights, adjust the wheel size just incase you change your wheels etc etc...However the mail order tunes are not the most effective tunes, they are good for my car right now with minimal mods.....of course when im ready to start doing big mods then i will get it dyno tuned....but with my car you cant even get an intake without tuning it so for 25 bucks just for mail order tune i think its worth it for now. And also if you buy your tune from the company Brenspeed for mustangs, and then you buy more parts from them and need a new tune they will send you a tune for free so it works for me :)
Grifter
02-02-08, 10:42 AM
This is how i tune my car right now, and yes they are not the most effective tunes, they are good for my car right now with minimal mods.....of course when im ready to start doing big mods then i will get it dyno tuned....but with my car you cant even get an intake without tuning it so for 25 bucks just for mail order tune i think its worth it for now. And also if you buy your tune from the company Brenspeed for mustangs, and then you buy more parts from them and need a new tune they will send you a tune for free so it works for me :)
I know they work and most of the companies offer good deals on tunes but I just don't like it, ha. My friend got his GT tuned by JDM, they even admitted to him it's not worth it to come in. They said they've done so many, they'll just sell him the tune and he can load it in his car.
haha yeah trust me id rather get it dyno tuned as well...but there are no dynos anywhere close to me, and obviously they are expensive, so like i said all i have is intake, and header back exhaust, so its just easier for me....how is the Camaro by the way?
Grifter
02-02-08, 11:06 AM
haha yeah trust me id rather get it dyno tuned as well...but there are no dynos anywhere close to me, and obviously they are expensive, so like i said all i have is intake, and header back exhaust, so its just easier for me....how is the Camaro by the way?
It's awesome.:D
Sorry for the hijack Andy, back on topic.
FreshRedSkittl
02-02-08, 12:52 PM
1. grifter tell your friend to stop going to jdm they dont know jack shit and have blown up a LOT of cars
2. jay im gonna order a sct tuner within the next month i want that free tune
Grifter
02-02-08, 01:25 PM
1. grifter tell your friend to stop going to jdm they dont know jack shit and have blown up a LOT of cars
Hrm, ok. I'm gong to try and make this short. I am guessing you have either taken your car to JDM or have friends that have? I have a couple, including my cousin who has been going there for years. They work on a lot of cars. EVERY performance shop is going to have car they touched blow up, whether it's their fault or not. I currently take my car to a shop that some people have said blow up cars and are assholes, but I trust them with my car. These shops aren't like dealers, they're not replacning parts that should last another 100K miles, that's why you have to sign a waiver every time your car gets put on the dyno.
Again, sorry Andy.
1. grifter tell your friend to stop going to jdm they dont know jack shit and have blown up a LOT of cars
2. jay im gonna order a sct tuner within the next month i want that free tune
and you are?
99problemz
02-02-08, 06:29 PM
jay did you say free??....im driving to AEM right now....cant miss out on this offer
jay did you say free??....im driving to AEM right now....cant miss out on this offer
lol whats up q...its a long drive to cali lol... i wasnt talking about free tunes on aem...i know that system very well.i was talking about sct
99problemz
02-02-08, 09:27 PM
aight...ill stay my ass in queens...most ill go is sylvania,jersey thats it!
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